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pinklloyd
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Comments regarding Envision
Apr 3 2009, 10:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 3 2009, 10:58 AM EDT
It would be great if you posted views from other PV residents regarding Envision. Not everyone in the neighborhood supports the rights listed on this page. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Contrarian
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1. RE: Comments regarding Envision
Apr 3 2009, 1:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 3 2009, 1:43 PM EDT
That would be welcome. We'd need to start with some basic education about what a "right" is. Envision Spokane is obviously clueless on that point. Do you find this valuable?    
SteveHaynes
SteveHaynes
2. RE: Comments regarding Envision
Apr 6 2009, 2:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2009, 2:25 PM EDT
"It would be great if you posted views from other PV residents regarding Envision. Not everyone in the neighborhood supports the rights listed on this page. "
Personally I do not support what this group is proposing particularly on the minimum wage part. It seems to me that it would create an enforcement nightmare for this City. Do you find this valuable?    
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3. RE: Comments regarding Envision
Apr 6 2009, 4:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2009, 4:02 PM EDT
So would all the other frights on ES's list.

It is depressing that there is still an audience receptive to this recycled 60s-era "economic democracy" (which is itself recycled marxism). But the incentives are obvious --- everybody wants a free lunch, and, unfortunately, many people are not too fussy about what they must do to obtain one. They will find almost any rationalization for stealing someone else's money and handing it over to them plausible. And since they have absorbed since childhood a whole corpus of nonsensical doctrines regarding the nature of rights, the structure of society, and the basis of law --- not to mention American history --- populist screeds like ES's go down quite easily.

I don't expect this latest collectivist free lunch scheme to pass (though I would not be greatly surprised if it did), but if it is rejected, it will be, unfortunately, for pragmatic reasons of the sort you mention. And then it will be resurrected in another decade or so by the next cohort of populist ideologues. What's needed is to root out the misguided basal beliefs which render it plausible to many uncritical minds.


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